{"id":21296,"date":"2015-09-15T09:33:47","date_gmt":"2015-09-15T09:33:47","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/waitesmith.org\/?p=21296"},"modified":"2025-11-23T22:32:28","modified_gmt":"2025-11-23T22:32:28","slug":"rider-roses-lilies-deck-1909","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/waitesmith.org\/index.php\/decks\/rider-roses-lilies-deck-1909\/","title":{"rendered":"Rider “Roses & Lilies” deck (1909)"},"content":{"rendered":"

[vc_row][vc_column][vc_column_text]T<\/span>his prototype deck was officially presented to the public\u00a0on December 10th, 1909 for display at a local arts & crafts fair. There is no existing documentation to state when the\u00a0art for the deck was done except for a letter from Pam<\/a> and a small ad<\/a>\u00a0for the upcoming\u00a0Tarot of the Bohemians<\/em> (ToB<\/em>)\u00a0in the October catalog from William Rider & Son, Ltd., which appeared in the back of certain books, but it is assumed that the art was conducted over a six month span throughout the summer and fall of 1909.\u00a0Copies were available for order in the December issue<\/a> of Ralph Shirley’s\u00a0Occult Review<\/a><\/em>,\u00a0and\u00a0pre-sales were possible<\/a> by ordering directly from William Rider & Son, Ltd.’s October catalog<\/a>.\u00a0Given the complete lack of any evidence these decks actually existed (other than the few\u00a0known copies and a letter of apology<\/a> that accompanied one of the extant copies) it appears the actual number of the unnamed decks now termed “Roses and Lilies” was extremely limited. This is akin to “proof copies” of books made by publishers and these first decks may have been made primarily to establish early interest for\u00a0a massive print run three months later<\/a> (which is eerily similar to the fate of the Waite=J.K. Tarot<\/a><\/em> 65 years later in Tokyo).<\/p>\n

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This deck initially sold for five shillings net (postage was fourpence) and came with or without a “Key to the Tarot<\/a><\/em>” for an extra\u00a0two schillings sixpence<\/a>. (7-\/6-). An odd note is that the October 1909 catalog had the deck and KtT<\/em>\u00a0listed at 6 shillings sixpence<\/a> (6-\/6), so if you missed the pre-order deadline it cost you extra*. To further complicate the matter, according to the early ads\u00a0there appears to have been a paperback version of the\u00a0Key to the Tarot<\/em> (so, you had a choice) which this lower price represents. That version disappears from future ads, and no known copies of that version exist today.<\/p>\n

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* Yes folks, only here can you find such nerdy statistics and details carefully woven into the narrative.<\/p>\n

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This edition of the deck\u00a0(December 1909\u2013February 1910) came with a small blue hardbound\u00a0Key to the Tarot<\/a><\/em>, authored by Art himself, that had gold embossed spine text and an embossed (but with no gold) ouroborous-encircled title on the cover\u00a0(the later models came with a gold snakey<\/em>). These were all bound in a rather large “top-lift” red box. What records we have indicates the cards were an instant hit, with several follow-up print runs in four (possibly five) known editions through 1939.<\/p>\n

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While beautiful to behold, these prototype decks have been reported\u00a0to have been of inferior quality to that needed for actual use, and these were replaced by the “1910 A decks”<\/a> in late March the next year. An exact replica of this deck has never been created, but a few companies have conjured up facsimiles over the years, ranging from comically bad to “dangerously close to the original.” Scans of the original decks appear below.[\/vc_column_text][vc_empty_space height=”32px”][\/vc_column][\/vc_row][vc_row row_type=”row” type=”full_width” anchor=”” in_content_menu=”” content_menu_title=”” icon_pack=”font_awesome” content_menu_fa_icon=”” content_menu_fe_icon=”arrow_back” text_align=”left” video=”” video_overlay=”” video_overlay_image=”” video_webm=”” video_mp4=”” video_ogv=”” video_image=”” background_image=”” pattern_background=”” section_height=”” parallax_speed=”” background_color=”” border_color=”” side_padding=”” padding_top=”” padding_bottom=”” color=”” hover_color=”” more_button_label=”” less_button_label=”” button_position=”” css_animation=”” transition_delay=””][vc_column width=”1\/1″][vc_column_text]<\/p>\n

Please click here to compare this deck to other decks<\/a><\/h2>\n

[\/vc_column_text][\/vc_column][\/vc_row][vc_row row_type=”row” type=”full_width” in_content_menu=”” icon_pack=”font_awesome” content_menu_fe_icon=”arrow_back” text_align=”left” pattern_background=”” padding_top=”10″][vc_column width=”1\/1″][vc_separator type=”normal” position=”center” color=”#b39964″ border_style=”solid” up=”10px” down=”30px”][\/vc_column][\/vc_row][vc_row row_type=”row” type=”full_width” in_content_menu=”” icon_pack=”font_awesome” content_menu_fe_icon=”arrow_back” text_align=”left” pattern_background=”” padding_top=”30″][vc_column width=”1\/3″][vc_column_text]Publisher: William Rider & Son, Ltd.<\/a><\/p>\n

Pub date:\u00a0Dec. 10, 1909<\/p>\n

Designer: Arthur Edward Waite<\/a><\/p>\n

Artist: Pamela Coleman Smith<\/a><\/p>\n

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Stats<\/span>:<\/p>\n

Size: 70 x 120 mm<\/p>\n

Thickness: 39-40\u00a0mm<\/p>\n

Weight: 255 grams<\/p>\n

Cost: five\u00a0shillings<\/a><\/p>\n

Came with: Slipcase<\/p>\n

Optional\u00a0paper KtT<\/em>\u00a0& maroon box
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Optional\u00a0cloth\u00a0PktT<\/em>\u00a0&\u00a0slipcase<\/p>\n

(+two schillings sixpence<\/a><\/em>)<\/p>\n

Pre-sale special:<\/p>\n

Deck + PKtT total 6s. 6d.<\/a><\/em><\/p>\n

Printed in London<\/p>\n

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Associated KtT<\/em>\u00a0(also seen in the featured image) was printed by William Rider & Sons, Ltd. Unlike the 1910 KtT<\/em><\/a>\u00a0this first edition<\/span>\u00a0had a blind stamped cover instead of a gilt cover stamp. Other than that these books are identical, and bound\u00a0only a few weeks or months apart.\u00a0Please click here to see various close ups of this edition of <\/a>The\u00a0Key to the Tarot<\/a>.<\/em>[\/vc_column_text][\/vc_column][vc_column width=”1\/3″][vc_gallery type=”flexslider_fade” interval=”5″ images=”21837,21838,21839,21840,21841,21842,21843,21844,21845,21846,21847,21848,21849,21850,21851,21852,21833,21834,21835,21836,22257″ onclick=”link_image” custom_links_target=”_self” column_number=”2″ grayscale=”no” choose_frame=”default” img_size=”435×743″][\/vc_column][vc_column width=”1\/3″][vc_column_text]<\/p>\n

On the left is a complete set of web friendly scanned images of the original<\/em>\u00a0Waite-Smith decks (4-up). This deck was the prototype, or “proof of concept” deck to be shown and sold at a local art fair. The “Roses and Lilies” background on the back of the decks is unique to this print run.\u00a0An inferior recreation of this background has been placed on decks by both Lo Scarabeo and U.S. Games Systems. Neither company uses the true original pattern; not that it matters to anyone but historical scholars. While it is fun to pick up a “new” wildly historically inaccurate reproduction deck we would not want you to be fooled\u00a0by revisionist history.\u00a0Individual web-friendly scanned images of this deck can be found here<\/a>. If you need\u00a0high-resolution scans of this deck for research purposes, or for your university, county, or national museum, please contact us<\/a>!<\/em><\/p>\n

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